the recent noun09.xyz block

McStealinYaBucket · 2023-07-04T00:43:04+00:00

I think this block was unfair because Nounblox is recreated from publicly obtainable frontend and unique backend legally remade. It uses no illegally obtaine...

1985guyz

roblox allows these types of sites and many exist to this day

wemz

ss-
yes i do believe they use the rendering software, however, this is publicly available on many services such as archive.org and is not illegally obtained
there are no known instances of roblox corporation taking down a site for using this software

ss-

wemz Even if it is obtainable on the Internet Archive, that doesn't mean it's free software.

wemz

there have been instances of people falsely claiming to be from roblox corporation faking dmca requests before (e.g. with rblxdev), but all of these instances were ignored and not acted upon and nothing happened, as roblox themselves did not make these dmca requests

wemz

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you make a fair point, however i do believe roblox has never "sold" this
after "revivals" became a thing roblox basically allowed usage of this software

ss-

wemz Still, it shouldn't be a big deal if the site owners made their own rendering engine. I mean, if they could re-create an entire ASP.NET website in PHP, they should be able to make their own rendering engine easily. It shouldn't be hard to stop using the 1 thing still holding them back.

McStealinYaBucket

wemz Most of the assets that we use from ROBLOX are not being used anymore and haven't been for years. Most of the items we plan to add on our catalog from ROBLOX are offsale on their site, meaning they don't care about them anymore.

McStealinYaBucket

McStealinYaBucket To add onto what I said, the icons used for the for show builders club icon, is made up of stock images from an asset library, which also falls under fair use and is not made by ROBLOX, along with many other assets on the website.

wemz

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i do assume that its for accuracy
why would they risk making an inaccurate rendering system for their site when one already exists which is not illegal to use

wemz

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i'd also like to add that it takes times to make such remakes
you must be really dedicated

this is one of many reasons i do not agree with this hosting platform's decision to block the site
it breaks no rules that i am aware of and any potential confusion has been cleared up already in this thread

wemz

please do not lock this thread, as i've seen instances of you doing such before
we are providing solid evidence that the site in question did not use any illegally obtained materials nor was it harmful in any way

i really hope you understand this time

ss-

wemz Because that one is still used today (in newer versions) by the company their site is based on?

wemz

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you make a good point, however, the new one is not leaked, and is in use by them
whereas the old one is publicly available and does not represent roblox corporation's modern works

wemz

McStealinYaBucket
exactly

serv00 admin, we are very sure that roblox corporation does not disallow such recreations of their old website

McStealinYaBucket

I looked inside the ROBLOX Terms Of Service and Privacy Policy and it says nothing about banning things that use ROBLOX assets under fair use.

McStealinYaBucket

McStealinYaBucket The website never monetized anything, we just took small ROBLOX assets.

wemz

McStealinYaBucket
yes
nothing was monetized
everything was remade from legally obtained assets and archives, and their own backend, and the footer gave credit to roblox corporation

McStealinYaBucket

wemz We never said anything about making the assets that ROBLOX made. Nounblox only admited to making the things Nounblox ACTUALY made.

wemz

McStealinYaBucket
yes
an acknowledgement that roblox was created by roblox corporation was even included at the bottom of every page

ss-

If this site has such a huge following that they will make a thread like this, it probably shouldn't be on a shared hosting website like Serv00.com.

wemz

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you make a good point, but not everyone can afford a hoster or knows a paid one
they came to serv00 because it seemed like a great hoster with lots of capablities

wemz

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this situation is like one i see you have experienced before
https://forum.serv00.com/d/56-please-take-down-this-site/4

wemz

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i'd also like to add that we are all regular users of the "revival" that are all confused over the recent blocking

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