the recent noun09.xyz block

McStealinYaBucket

I think this block was unfair because

Nounblox is recreated from publicly obtainable frontend and unique backend legally remade.
It uses no illegally obtained things.
ROBLOX allows these types of sites and many exist to this day.

McStealinYaBucket

and besides, what did the domain ever do to other users or anybody in general? Nobody ever was being harassed on the website. In-fact, it was still in-testing so it would be unfair to shut it down now if we don't : even know its true intentions yet.

loldude9283

Exactly! Nounblox is a great project that uses nothing that is ILLEGAL. Other websites, such as Project Polygon, or Tadah, etc, have been allowed by Roblox and haven't been in any trouble. This is why I think this isn't a fair block.

1985guyz

this sucks, the whole community is freaking out, good job now you make us look like a fool.

McStealinYaBucket

1985guyz The mod team must be mistaken about this. Everything on the website is made by us except for some minor assets like faces, or images from the client, which most of the images ROBLOX used with the client are stock images and are from asset libraries, this also intertwines with the assets in the client used, as almost all of the audio used in the client is stock from asset libraries as well.

McStealinYaBucket

The only time ROBLOX took action against a revival is when a revival named Finobe was selling currency for USD. There are no USD purchases in Nounblox, and it falls under fair use.

McStealinYaBucket

McStealinYaBucket To add onto what I said, the icons used for the for show builders club icon, is made up of stock images from an asset library, which also falls under fair use and is not made by ROBLOX, along with many other assets on the website.

wemz

also im pretty sure roblox uses asp.net, which wouldn't work on this hoster. i know for a fact that this site uses their own php

you have us all stressed. this was a really good project but it seems that your staff team is misunderstood

McStealinYaBucket

wemz Wemz is right, everything here falls under fair use, most of the stuff made like rendering, php, website itself, is made by the creators of the site and not by ROBLOX.

wemz

McStealinYaBucket

exactly
anyone could legally make something like this, and several people do

i recall seeing roblox's ceo endorse these types of sites (known as revivals) in an ask-me-anything reddit thread

ss-

It would appear that the site is attempting to re-create the ROBLOX website from 2009. I believe that, yes, all code is PHP, not ASP.NET. However, the site does have a certain piece of software that is taken from Roblox Corporation, and that's their rendering software. So it appears this website does have some code, but most of this code is free anyways, as ROBLOX is a free game.

wemz

ss-
yes i do believe they use the rendering software, however, this is publicly available on many services such as archive.org and is not illegally obtained
there are no known instances of roblox corporation taking down a site for using this software

1985guyz

nounblox is recreated from publicly obtainable frontend and unique backend legally remade

1985guyz

it uses no illegally obtained things

1985guyz

roblox allows these types of sites and many exist to this day

ss-

wemz Even if it is obtainable on the Internet Archive, that doesn't mean it's free software.

wemz

there have been instances of people falsely claiming to be from roblox corporation faking dmca requests before (e.g. with rblxdev), but all of these instances were ignored and not acted upon and nothing happened, as roblox themselves did not make these dmca requests

wemz

ss-
you make a fair point, however i do believe roblox has never "sold" this
after "revivals" became a thing roblox basically allowed usage of this software

ss-

wemz Still, it shouldn't be a big deal if the site owners made their own rendering engine. I mean, if they could re-create an entire ASP.NET website in PHP, they should be able to make their own rendering engine easily. It shouldn't be hard to stop using the 1 thing still holding them back.

McStealinYaBucket

wemz Most of the assets that we use from ROBLOX are not being used anymore and haven't been for years. Most of the items we plan to add on our catalog from ROBLOX are offsale on their site, meaning they don't care about them anymore.

wemz

ss-
i do assume that its for accuracy
why would they risk making an inaccurate rendering system for their site when one already exists which is not illegal to use

wemz

ss-
i'd also like to add that it takes times to make such remakes
you must be really dedicated

this is one of many reasons i do not agree with this hosting platform's decision to block the site
it breaks no rules that i am aware of and any potential confusion has been cleared up already in this thread

wemz

please do not lock this thread, as i've seen instances of you doing such before
we are providing solid evidence that the site in question did not use any illegally obtained materials nor was it harmful in any way

i really hope you understand this time